Dials

Jul 31, 2014,09:05 AM
 

I've seen a few different methods for fitting dials to movements.

As stated, dial feet are the typical approach; usually stabilized and anchored by a locking screw or sliding clip. I've seen clip on dials that have a ring along the outer edge that allows a dial to be friction fit to the edge of the movement (early Rolex 1803 Day-Dates have a dial like this). I've also seen some dials that have holes on the outer edge where they are held to the movement using screws. On some Patek ref 1463, you can actually see these dial screws visible along the edge where the dial meets the rehaut.

For the late 30s/40s/early 50s Patek dials, many were made using an enameling technique called champlevé. Essentially, the dial 'print' as you see it is not actually print at all. Rather the font/minute chapter/etc was engraved out of the dial, filled and fired. The dial surface is then polished down and finished but the hard enamel is retained. If you see some of the Patek dials from this era, you will notice that the dial 'printing' appears raised; that is the effect of the champlevé process (I learned this from the great, knowledgeable people here on Puristspro as a matter of fact).

As for the 'wrinkling' that you pointed out; depending on the reference, the effect may be a result of dial damage from removing bezels, uncasing, etc. combined with the possible fragile nature of a dial that may have been exposed to the elements (remember, a lot of these early vintage cases were not waterproof). In fact, I believe that was the whole reasoning behind the champlevé dials... To be able to endure some of those conditions a little better than a pad printed dial could...

Hope this helps...

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 By: matthewking : April 11th, 2014-00:47
Hi all, I've recently come across the WatchTech forum here on PuristSPro and I absolutely love the reports, stories, and feedback here. Amazing. Unfortunately, I don't have much knowledge to share. Instead, I have a question regrading dials. Any thoughts ...  

A very quick reply, or better: the possible start for many replies ....

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : April 11th, 2014-03:49
I am not a watchmaker myself, and all I want is to offer a quick information that can serve as starting point for own research, or - that would be much better - for replies from my watchmaking colleagues. Generally, the methods of fixing the dial depend o... 

Very varied

 
 By: DonCorson : April 12th, 2014-00:24
In general the dials are mounted on the movement in some way, as Marcus said. The most common method is with "dial feet" that are spot welded on the back of the dial and then fixed in some way on holes in the movement. Other methods include using a ring a... 

Dials

 
 By: veblen_goods : July 31st, 2014-09:05
I've seen a few different methods for fitting dials to movements. As stated, dial feet are the typical approach; usually stabilized and anchored by a locking screw or sliding clip. I've seen clip on dials that have a ring along the outer edge that allows ... 

Great stuff

 
 By: matthewking : August 1st, 2014-03:11
Thank you very much for your insightful comments - gives me great direction.