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Dec 21, 2013,12:24 PM
 

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Quoting you Mark:
"New sport sedan/coupé are more like big GTs able to carry the whole familly and allow the driver to have fun with pressing the right pedal sometimes.

Sadly, that's how things evolved lately."

I can definitely see where you're coming from Mark.  Continued evolution creates distance from the traditional sports cars Porsche used to make.  

I can't say which I prefer from the heritage/nostalgia or the technology, having only limited experience with the brand; and only experience with their modern cars.  I haven't personally driven any Porsche vehicle produced before the year 2000 nor any of the air-cooled vehicles, so my interpretation of what is "traditional" and "raw" is pure conjecture.  

So you've got me stumped Mark.  I can only pretend to understand what you mean.  

I will say though, in my experience with only modern cars, I've seen some evolution too.  I went from driving a modern car with a normal conventional suspension to another modern car with a special active suspension that has a computer controlled anti-roll bar.  The new active roll-bar suspension took some getting used to, and for the first month of getting used to the car it felt very unnatural to me.  However, after a month, I now find that it is a helpful technology.  I still miss the traditional conventional suspension I used to drive and when I do drive cars today with a normal suspension I relish the natural feel immensely.  But I'm able to embrace the new active technology, employ it, and enjoy it.  

I hope that you'll find the virtues of these new modern Porsches.  Who knows, after a month of putting up with it, you may like it.  
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This post has been edited for cohesiveness. Quoting you Mark: "New sport sedan/coupé are more like big GTs able to carry the whole familly and allow the driver to have fun with pressing the right pedal sometimes. Sadly, that's how things evolved lately." ... 

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